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Judges rules in favor of Holmes student in PdL case

PANAMA CITY - Heather Gillman can wear her T-shirts.

U.S. District Judge Richard Smoak decided Tuesday the Holmes County School Board violated Gillman's right to free speech in November and ordered the board to alert students in writing that they are allowed to express their support for the equal treatment of gays in an appropriate and non-disruptive way.

"I find that the core message here is of tolerance and fairness," Smoak said.

He added that administrators missed a chance in September to address students' issues about homosexuality.

"This could have been an opportunity for leadership, an opportunity for understanding and civil discourse and a learning opportunity for tolerance and diversity. Unfortunately, those opportunities were missed," Smoak said.

He said demonstrations at Ponce de Leon High School in September were not so disruptive to allow the school to suppress students' rights to express their opinions on gay issues.

The ruling went into effect immediately.

Gillman, 17, a Ponce de Leon High School junior, sued the Holmes County School Board last year because it prohibited her from wearing T-shirts she had made in support of gay rights. Gillman made the shirts after her ninth-grade cousin, who is openly gay, was suspended along with nine other students for disruptions they caused in September.

Her case went to a bench trial Monday and Tuesday.

Students testified Tuesday that those disruptions amounted to shouting "gay pride" in the hallways, arguing with other students, chanting slogans while walking the track during physical education, organizing a possible walkout of an assembly that never occurred, graffiti and passing notes in class. Smoak pressed the attorneys during their examinations of the witnesses to focus on disruptions that were outside the norm for middle and high school students.

He said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled suppression of students' constitutional right to free speech can occur only if there have been "material and substantial" disruptions to the educational process.

"Giggling, whispering and passing notes does not meet that standard," Smoak told the lawyers.

One student said the disruptions were intended to anger Principal David Davis, because the students believed Davis had suspended Gillman's cousin because she was gay. Witnesses said Monday and Tuesday that Davis expressed anti-gay sentiments to them.

"He told me, 'If there was a man in your house and you were going to church, you wouldn't be having these gay issues,'" Theresa Cottle said Tuesday as to a conversation she had with Davis about her daughter, who was partaking in the demonstrations.

Holmes County School Superintendant Steven Griffin told Smoak that Gillman's shirts, which had slogans such as, "Gay? Fine by me," "Gay Pride" and "I'm straight but I vote gay," were banned from the school only because they were linked to the September disruptions, and the School Board has no policy banning pro-gay messages.

Smoak said in his ruling that Griffin's investigation of the September incidents was so shoddy it "amounted to no investigation at all."

"I did not hear any evidence of any effort by the (school board) to deal with this by any other means less drastic than banning the speech and suspending the students," Smoak said.

The School Board's lawyer, Holly Dincman, told the judge the disruptions the students described met the appellant courts' rulings on this issue. She said her interpretation of the standard was any disruption that took students' time away from learning "even in a small way."

Dincman objected to Smoak's limits on her ability to show the small disruptions and said she would prepare her appeal based in part on those limits.

After Smoak's ruling, Dincman said the School Board would do everything possible to comply with the order.

Gillman's attorney, Garrard Beeney, told the press this case was not breaking new legal ground but would support existing law and influence future cases.

Beeney told the students assembled outside the courthouse they now are responsible for expressing themselves properly.

"With freedom comes responsibility," he said. "You have to live up to the judge's faith in you."


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PLEASE READ ROMANS CHAPTER 1. THEN THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT HOW ALL OF YOU FEEL

Amy - May 21, 2008 11:46:38 PM Remove Comment

 
IN THE LETTER THEY SENT OUT IT SAYS, MORE OR LESS NOT TO DO ANYTHING TO OFFEND THE HOMOSEXUALS, WELL, WHAT ABOUT MY KIDS, ITS OK TO OFFEND MY KIDS WITH THEIR STUFF. MAYBE, WE ALL NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND TAKE THEM TO COURT BECAUSE THEY OFFEND OUR KIDS. WHATS LEFT, WE TOOK PRAYER OUT BECAUSE IT OFFENDED PEOPLE, WE TOOK THE PLEDGE OUT, BECAUSE IT OFFENDED PEOPLE, WHATS NEXT. ALL WE CAN DO IS PRAY CONSISTANTLY FOR THESE PEOPLE.

STACEY - May 21, 2008 12:10:05 PM Remove Comment

 
Uniforms are great but the judge ruled the students may display symbols and slogans reflecting support for the fair and equal treatment of homosexuals. This includes but is not limited to the symbols and slogans. The students are permitted to wear clothing, tattoos, to write on their bodiesincluding forehead, such statements on notebooks or personal papers or items. GAY PRIDE, GAY FINE BY ME, SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NOT A CHOICE RELIGION HOWEVER IS, and many more slogans. This is SO not right. How can one person rule and this happens in our public schools. I am so heavy hearted.

parent - May 19, 2008 11:05:00 PM Remove Comment

 
Make them wear uniforms. All schools public and private should be made to wear school uniforms.

Solution - May 19, 2008 10:38:50 PM Remove Comment

 
I think the Constitution trumps the issue in favor of how the Judge ruled Suppressing the freedom of expression for one group opens the door to others being silenced and that is a very slippery slope. Maybe it makes some uncomfortable well so does many other things. Such as saying abortion is exterminating the unborn to a young woman who is the crime victim. Different views opinions and interpretations of what is moral or not moral have always existed and will continue to exist until the world ends. Get over it give them their right to peacefully and freely express their beliefs by the same token allow others that same opportunity. Nobody should be forcing their beliefs or morals on anyone hat is a personal choice. However without good debate which is what appears in this forum no one really thinks hard and long about such subjects Isnt that what America is about anyway I also would state that I fully respect those of you who may disagree with my opinion but I fully support your right to air the differences you may have with me for that is what makes this country so great Freedom is never easy and this issue is just one more example of why we must protect that sacred right called the 1st Amendment to the Constituion even when the issue at hand doesnt suit us and goes against everything we hold as divine Sorry about leaving out some commas etc but this text box only allows text

BMS - May 19, 2008 03:06:35 PM Remove Comment

 
I am a parent also. I believe along with loving and supporting your children, you must use common sense. I send my children to school to learn from accredited teachers about english, math, history, science, etc. Not from what is printed on a t-shirt. There is a time and place for every thing. I have a strong faith in God, but I do not let my children wear t-shirts of any kind even to support our religion to SCHOOL. I believe that we led by example of not by what is said on a t-shirt. I feel sorry for those of you who feel that you must down grade good country folk by saying things about incest. I do not personally live in Holmes county but another county close by. Tolerance really isn't the issue here. The issue is the proper place to make your issue's heard.

Ann - May 19, 2008 02:10:06 PM Remove Comment

 
2 words Sodom and Gommorah Remember what happened there?

Bible reader - May 19, 2008 02:01:13 PM Remove Comment

 
Campaigning for Black rights as it has been put is a far cry from sexual rights. The racial issue is to be treated equally as humans. What you do sexually should not become a public issue at all. Race versus sex? There is no comparision. You can with hold yourself sexually and as has been said, KEEP IT PRIVATE and don't force your sexual orientation on anyone else or make an issue out of so called supporting others who are gay. If they are your family or friends find another place besides a school to do what you think you need to do. What race you are is so far above your sexual preference. There are children and teachers and administrators who deserve more respect for their own privacy and not be forced to have so called gay rights forced down their throats. I do hope the good people and the administration of Pdl do appeal and overturn this judges decision. Will the children who believe in the bible that God created man and women for each other to pro-create be allowed to wear t-hirts saying so? I'm ashamed that someone from a good moral country area would call on the standards of an attorney from New York. Why? Is it because none of our fine moral attorney's around here wouldn't take the case?

Ginna - May 19, 2008 02:03:28 AM Remove Comment

 
What about the letter that was ordered by the judge to be sent out to all the students from the sixth grade and up to be signed and returned to school. I wonder what the precentage of returned were? I'm guessing a very low percent.

parent - May 18, 2008 11:08:08 PM Remove Comment

 
continued from previous post Now did I understand this court decision correctly to mean that if I am a Holmes County student I can find a Tshirt with the most awful most offensive message printed on it and I can wear that to school because it is my right to do so? Where are the rights of the students who are offended by that trash and do not want to have to see it or sit next to it in class? Do not they have some rights too like the right to go to school and actually concentrate on getting an education and not a sexual education. That should be private and not discussed or displayed in any fashion. I think this judge missed the mark on this case and I wish the School Board would appeal his ruling. They could probably pass the hat around for the legal fees. In the meantime SB needs to adopt uniforms beginning next year because I have a feeling this is only the beginning of repeated problems now that students know they have rights and that they can call that NY lawyer to come to their rescue! I AM EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED AT THIS COMMENT AREA BECAUSE IT WILL NOT ALLOW CONTRACTIONS OR COMMAS TO CORRECTLY PUNCTUATE MY COMMENTS. Without proper punctuation my comments appear to come from an illiterate!

Flori - May 18, 2008 09:54:59 PM Remove Comment

 
Some commentor has raised the question about who the lawyer is for Heather Gillman. Well from a quick Google search I find Garrard Beeney who is identified in an earlier newspaper article. This comment section will not allow me to include the website so you will need to do the search yourself. It appears this lawyer is a partner in a New York City law firm Sullivan and Cromwell LLP. Now should not we have known that it would take a highfaluting New York City lawyer to come on down to por ole Holmes County Florida and straighten out them por ole country hicks and make shore all them younens is gettin treated right and not deprived of their rights! I think the Gillman family should have to go back home with him and live in New York if they do not like for their daughter to respect authority and the moral standards of the community of Ponce de Leon. Another commentor has mentioned voting Judge Smoak out of his position. I have not checked to see if he is elected but if he is I will be making sure that I vote for his opponent. All this said since when were students allowed to wear clothing or Tshirts with slogans or printing of any kind? I understood that had been taken care of long ago with a county dress code. Did Holmes County School Board Members go to sleep on this issue?

Florida Sunshine - May 18, 2008 09:53:02 PM Remove Comment

 
I am a student in the Holmes County School System and I think this is absolutly ridiculous. It is a distration to me to have other students saying they are gay! God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! It offends me for them to be gay. If students cant wear on there clothes hat they beleive why can other students wear clothes that say they are gay. I would rather just solve the problem and go to a uniform, even though khakies look really bad on me!

student - May 18, 2008 09:17:57 PM Remove Comment

 
So students would be justified in campaigning for black civil rights but not gay civil rights is that the argument? If so are you not determining what is freely expressed based on a preference? The issue was wearing clothing that simply supports gay civil rights not proclaiming themselves necessarily to be gay or advocating it as a lifestyle.

BC - May 18, 2008 01:08:05 AM Remove Comment

 
No, the case have not mis-read. I agree with the other readers that responded about it being private. Being gay is a sexual orientation, not a race. Again, what people do in their bedroom should be kept as their business and it should not have been made an issue.

Not misguided - May 17, 2008 09:23:27 PM Remove Comment

 
You have mis-read the case. This case was not about advocating being gay or straight. This was about supporting equal rights for gays. During segregation the issue was equal rights under the law. This is the issue today only it concerns people with a gay sexual orientation. The real question is do we want a world where some folks are treated different under the law just because of their skin color or sexual orientation etc? Don't confuse supporting the gay lifestyle and supporting equal rights under the law and the students support for that issue alone is what is at stake here.

BC - May 17, 2008 03:36:42 PM Remove Comment

 
Yes, you are right on the last comment when you say it is a private matter and should be handled that way. As a parent, I believe that sexual orientation should be kept private. I don't want my children going to school to learn about that type of thing. It is my job to teach them and I do. Teaching a child to go to court so that they can display their sexual feelings is clearly a sad state of mind. Teach your children to respect others but private should be kept private, not exploited on a T-shirt. T-shirts that contain this type of material should NOT be allowed to wear to school.

Ann - May 17, 2008 02:43:37 PM Remove Comment

 
AGAIN, School is NOT a place to display or discuss SEXUAL orientation. Period. It's a no brainer! The judge should have left it up to the school's administration. While I believe that man and woman go together only. It has nothing to do with letting children go around displaying what they believe in the bedroom which is a PRIVATE issue. Parents need to get their priorities straight. School is for learning about Math, English, etc. NOT sexual orientation. Keep private matters, private.

Parenting is a seriousjob - May 17, 2008 02:34:10 PM Remove Comment

 
Everyone is discussing the uniforms. Here is my take. The uniforms are a short term solution for a long term problem. Yes, the uniforms will take the focus off distracting dress issues. The true issue is, exactly what the judge stated. We must accept diversity and express tolerance. Everyone wants to bring morals into the issue. I believe God tells us to accept all of humanity. We are supposed to leave judgement to Him. Relax.

Annette - May 17, 2008 10:14:55 AM Remove Comment

 
the thrift store is great and serves needed familie who dont have a golden spoon in the mouth.

LA - May 16, 2008 05:47:49 PM Remove Comment

 
well since we all know the economic situation in holmes county who is going to help?

parent - May 16, 2008 05:39:30 PM Remove Comment

 



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